Android’s next big feature turns your phone into a desktop

Built-in to GrapheneOS for a while now.

CalyxOS also has it (though they block it where it's illegal).
Two problems:
No automatic call recording.
Banking apps don't work on GrapheneOS thanks to Play Integrity APIs, so you probably need to root to get them to work.
If you need to root anyway, might as well use BCR.
- Fair enough if those are deal breakers for anyone; just letting people know. Automatic would be nice, but couldn't care less about banking apps personally.
Where/how?
- There's a button on the call screen.
  
  Screenshot? I don't seem to have that.
  
  https://grapheneos.org/features#other-features
  Call recording functionality within the Dialer app using modern Android storage with recordings stored in Recordings/Call Recordings and no restrictions based on region or special cases like playing a recording tone (users are still responsible for complying with their local laws).
  Says there's no region block, so not sure why it wouldn't be there for you.
  Edit: the button only shows up when a call connects & it's on the bottom right.
  
  Strange. I'm not seeing it. This is within the default phone app correct?
Except it's not automatic
- I mean you still gotta press the recording button to record. You want it to auto record every phone call?
  
  Yes, that's how I used to have mine set up. I used to be able to make whitelist for numbers not to record, but otherwise it would just do it automatically for every call. Too many businesses, people, and organizations trying to pull sketchy things. I've literally played these recordings back to companies over the phone when they tried to claim they said something different. They record for quality assurance. I record to avoid their scam tactics.
  
  You want it to auto record every phone call?
  Yes. That's how my phone is currently set up. My ex-wife is a psychopath, so everything gets recorded and backed up.
  I want to love Graphene. I really do. But Jesus fucking christ, every thread the devs get involved with just seems like they're sniffing their own farts over blatant refusal to implement a feature in any sensible way. System-wide hosts-based adblocking (DNS/always-on VPN is not a reasonable solution) and automatic call recording should be basic-ass features on a custom ROM of this caliber.
  
  GrapheneOS is security-first and they're very clear about this. Them adhering to their principles even if it means a bit more inconvenience isn't "sniffing their own farts".
  If it isn't for you, that's fine. It was designed for joirnlists, whistleblowers and other people who could be targeted. And the team refusing to add stuff to protect them is absolutely legit.
  I would like to appeal to you to be nicer to teams of foss-software. They could probably make a lot more money if they worked for a corporation. They could charge money for licences for grapheneos. But they don't. They work on it and make it available for everyone simply from the goodness of their hearts.
  It is their project, not ours. we aren't entitled to anything. If we make demands and/or throw fits, we will simply demoralize them and cause them to quit developement, leaving us all as losers, without such a great project.
  So instead of being negative and critizising them, I'd be happy if we could say thank you to @[email protected] . because their heartblood makes grapheneos what it is today and my phone a lot better.
  
  Nowhere did I criticize the work they put into their ROM, nor demand that they add features (Volte when sir?). I have looked into modifying a stock ROM for my own tastes, and frankly, I simply don't have the skills for that kind of thing. I absolutely respect the work that goes into FOSS projects and products, and donate when I am able.
  That said, it's entirely possible to both recognize the effort that goes to creating a custom ROM of this caliber, and also point out that the Graphene devs are, in fact, pompous assholes about it. Especially whenever someone brings up rooting it (and yes, I am aware of the security implications).
  
  @lka1988 @pineapplelover
  System-wide hosts-based adblocking
  That's not a good way to do it.
  DNS/always-on VPN is not a reasonable solution
  You don't need to use a DNS service or VPN service to filter remotely. You can filter locally via the VPN service feature, including while using a VPN if you want.
  You should follow our advice and do it with an app like RethinkDNS providing support for both local filtering and optionally using WireGuard VPNs at the same time including chained VPNs.
  
  @lka1988 @pineapplelover
  Why do you want to have a slow, legacy and hard to debug implementation of domain-based filtering instead of managing it with an app?
  Domain-based filtering is also very limited in what it can since it's trivially bypassed by apps or web sites using IPs or doing their own DNS resolution, which is fairly widely adopted. For example, WhatsApp will still work with the domains blocked. In practice, you'll also only be filtering domains not used for useful functionality.
  
  @lka1988 @pineapplelover
  GrapheneOS does add call recording to our fork of AOSP Dialer. Unlike most alternate operating systems including LineageOS, we don't limit the regions where it's available. The fact that users are choosing to use it for specific calls means users are taking responsibility for the legality of recording that specific call and informing the other person of it. Automatic call recording would need more complexity to make it practical for people to comply with recording laws.
  
  @lka1988 @pineapplelover
  You can see from https://eylenburg.github.io/android/_comparison.htm that we have no limitations on call recording while others do. The fact that it's manual means users are taking responsibility for it each time. It's little different than recording a call with a tape recorder on speaker phone. If we did it automatically, then users would not be making a conscious decision to enable it case-by-case. That would be a problem, and not an acceptable way to do it without an extra explicit opt-in.
  
  Thank you for proving my point:
  every thread the devs get involved with just seems like they're sniffing their own farts
  Dont get me wrong, I think you guys make a great ROM. However, no advice was requested here, yet you tagged me in multiple consecutive comments chock full of unsolicited advice. Plus, in the first comment, you suggested "RethinkDNS", which depends on their own DNS servers. How do I know that this service, which I have literally never heard of in my 14 years of fucking with Android devices and ROMs and adblockers until maybe 6 months ago, isn't just a honeypot? Or will even exist after Trump is done raping the USA? I see they use DNS over HTTPS, but I defer to my previous (rhetorical) question.
  I wouldn't think a security and privacy-focused ROM should be recommending anything but a locally hosted option. But as others have said, this is your guys' project and you're free to implement it how you see fit. And it is a solid ROM. But apparently it's not for me.
  
  @lka1988
  Plus, in the first comment, you suggested “RethinkDNS”, which depends on their own DNS servers.
  You do not need to use their DNS servers. You can use local filtering and your choice of DNS servers including the network provided ones.
  I wouldn’t think a security and privacy-focused ROM should be recommending anything but a locally hosted option.
  We're recommending using local filtering via RethinkDNS, not the RethinkDNS servers. They allow downloading the blocklists locally.
  
  @lka1988 We focus our effort on the base OS and areas which are not already covered by high quality open source apps. We don't need to build our own domain-based filtering and blocklists for it because they already exist.
  We have built-in content filtering in Vanadium based on EasyList + EasyPrivacy. That's more usable (per-site toggle) and much less limited than what domain-based filtering can do but it's still limited by needing to permit dual use functionality and is still easily bypassed.
  
  @lka1988
  Which customrom and dnsblocking are you using?
  
  You want it to auto record every phone call?
  Yes. That's how my phone is currently set up. My ex-wife is a psychopath, so everything gets recorded and backed up.
  I've got to ask you something here and it'll probably sound weird, but here in the UK if you did that you'd probably be in for a hard time, legally standing recording others without informing them.
  But I'm more curious how often you listen back to these phone calls since you say you record each one, and do you keep lots of them/off-site etc?
  
  I'm also in a one-party consent country, and I've found it sometimes useful to get back to some calls just to find out some details, such as agreed date/time or some detail of a discussion I had with my mother. I would enjoy an automatic text translation to be stored alongside them.
  I miss the feature now that I have Pixel 8.
  I used syncthing to sync them to PC. Size-wise I have so few phone calls (work meetings excluded, which they are as they are over Slack/Teams) that all of them will fit most any modern phone easily.
  
  Again, thanks for the insight!
  Did a little searching and it seems you could script this to transcribe your calls
  https://github.com/openai/whisper
  
  I've got to ask you something here and it'll probably sound weird, but here in the UK if you did that you'd probably be in for a hard time, legally standing recording others without informing them.
  Not weird at all! I did my homework before implementing it. I'm in a single-party consent state (Utah), and so is my ex-wife (Idaho). No consent required as long as one party (I.e. me) is informed.
  But I'm more curious how often you listen back to these phone calls since you say you record each one, and do you keep lots of them/off-site etc?
  They're recorded in .opus format, so a 5 minute call, for example, is barely 500 kilobytes. And yes I have reviewed many of them, especially during my divorce some years back. They are stored on my phone which 1) syncs to my NAS via Syncthing and 2) uploads to Google Drive tied to a Workspace account that I pay for.
  I don't hide the fact that I record my calls, everyone who knows me knows this fact, including my wife (I am happily remarried). I also back up my texts, going back almost a decade now, which came in handy during the divorce.
  
  Appreciate the insight, thank you!
  
  Honestly I'd just suggest telling your ex-wife that it's email only from now on.
  
  Don't worry about that. I've already had to drag her to court when she tried to keep the kids with her last year, causing them to miss the first few weeks of school. The judge was not happy with her.
Can i install grapheneos on Xiaomi

There is an app called CubeACR which does exactly that on unrooted devices.

I very much doubt that, since Google removed the call recording APIs. But if someone can tell how it would work on recent Android, I would love being proven wrong.
- I mean it works on my device which is on Android 15. Not sure how exactly it works though. Just give it a shot and see for yourself?
  
  Did you install CubeACR from the Play store, or somewhere else?
  Did you install it on an earlier Android version, and then upgrade?
  What device is this, if you don't mind sharing?
  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.catalinagroup.callrecorder
  
  I have it installed via obtainium (which pulls from their website)
  Pretty I didn't
  OnePlus 12R

For users with a Samsung Flagship phone, if you have the "One UI 7" update, they just recently added this feature.

You used be able to run Linux apps too, but they pulled it all back because they are only good at creating bloatware.
Do you have such a phone? What CSC does it have?
- I currently have and use a Samsung Galaxy S24+. Not sure what you mean by CSC.
  There is a default voice recorder app included with the phone which can be used for meetings or other recordings. But when I make a phone call there is an extra button on screen. When clicking the button it informs the caller that the call is being recorded for legal reasons. Any recording that goes thru that app is able to be transcribed.
  
  https://itechhacks.com/find-your-samsung-galaxy-csc-region-code/
  You probably happen to have one of the CSCs that has native call recording enabled.
  Everyone else needs to either root their phone or change the CSC somehow.
  
  I'm not sure if the feature is region locked or not. I didn't have to worry about any of that. This feature is brand new with the One UI 7 update.
  https://youtube.com/shorts/Za1Md_WtHZk
  
  Would be nice, apart from the recording notification to the other party. Defeats the purpose of call recording in the first place.

OneUI 7.0.

And one UI 6.0 and one UI 5.0. My Samsung phones have done this for as long as I can remember
- Anything on Android 11 and below, at least, before the regulations were put in effect to take the feature from newer releases
  
  Maybe it was just the flagship phones that had it? I had Dex on my note 20 and s24ultra without interruption.
OneUI 7 actually downgrades the Dex experience by removing the feature to launch it in Windows, so we gain some features and lose some.

Nowadays you don't even need to root your phone; certains custom roms do that by default

And to install a custom ROM you need to unlock your boot loader and root it anyways. Do custom roms even come with a non-root option? I haven't done it in years.
- You don't have to root to install custom ROM
- Grapheneos doesn't require root before install or allow root after install
- You.. Dont need to root your device to install a custom rom? You can very well unlock your device, flash a custom rom, and use it unrooted. Nowadays quite a lot of custom rom come with a kernel prepatched for KSU, but that's obviously not a requirement..
  
  Bruh, last device I rooted and unlocked was in like 2015. Lost the need to do it.
  Back then though, I'd never heard of a custom ROM that doesn't have root enabled by default. Is that where we are at now?
  
  I still custom rom my devices to get rid of applications I don't need. Plus root is useful for automatizing the updating of my apps from third party stores ; but Shizuku exists so that's not the only way to do it.
  But yeah, nowaydays you need usually to flash magisk to have root, or to use a kernel compiled with support for KSU.